What is a misogynist?

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MISOGYNIST
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A man who thinks women are intelligent (Unless they’re disagreeing with a man or thinking they deserve anything besides [his] contempt), rational (Unless they’re disagreeing with [him] on anything at all), accountable human beings (By which I mean they need to take responsibility for everything they do and, thus everything [misogynists] do to them…) and expects them to act that way (by agreeing with everything a man says and never doing anything to stand up for themselves and provoke a man into doing something to them because that’s just the consequences of making a man angry with you and you deserved it!).

 

Commenter Paradoxicalintention, from this thread at We Hunted the Mammoth

In my experience, a misogynist is a man who hates women but claims he doesn’t and is just a poor misunderstood nice guy.

The ultimate test of whether a man is a woman-hater or not is what he thinks of feminism.  If he hates feminism, any kind of feminism, even that radical hairy-legged lesbian kind, he’s a misogynist.  If he thinks the patriarchy is a “conspiracy”, he’s a misogynist.  If he thinks he’s such a special snowflake that he deserves cookies for not raping or murdering women, and he should be exempt from any responsibility whatsoever for women’s oppression,  he’s a misogynist.

Consent: Not liberation

Haunted Village by M.K. Hajdin

Haunted Village by M.K. Hajdin

What liberals don’t understand is that 90% of oppression is consensual. People withstand oppression through 1) denial, 2) accommodation and 3) consent

Do not conflate consent with liberation. Consent is accommodation to unjust conditions that we do not control. Liberation is the overthrow of those conditions. 

– Lierre Keith

On “sealioning”

Poor sea lions. They didn’t ask for this internet meme.

When you ask a question in bad faith, you are essentially looking for a way to demean, degrade, or otherwise destroy your target. A good example of an obviously bad faith question is the perennial favorite “When did you stop beating your wife?” as it instantly casts doubt upon the person asked the question.

However, it’s easy to ask a question in bad faith using reasoned, good faith practices. Neutral phrasing does not always guarantee a question is asked in good faith. This is extremely obvious in documented sealioning; the target responds, only for the questioner to immediately grill them for more information, misinterpret the answer, or dismiss it entirely.

The purpose of sealioning never to actually learn or become more informed. The purpose is to interrogate. Much like actual interrogators, sealioners bombard the target with question after question, digging and digging until the target either says something stupid or is so pissed off that they react in the extreme.

— Tegiminis, Why Sealioning is Bad

This is a favorite tactic of MRA trolls.  It’s not any woman’s responsibility to educate men about how and why women are oppressed in this culture.  It is the responsibility of men to educate themselves, and not at MRA sites.

Hint:  if a site claims patriarchy is a “conspiracy“, it’s an MRA site.

On man-children

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Young white men often number among the most useless and deficient individuals in society, precisely because they have such a delusional sense of their own importance and entitlements. They’ve been raised to believe that one day they’ll be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars (and superheroes), but they won’t, and they’re having a tantrum because of it.

 

Damien Walter, Forget Iron Man: Let’s fight the white maleness of geek culture

The only thing sadder than this is the aging man-child who refuses to grow up but has the same delusional sense of his own importance and entitlements.  These grown men still live in fantasy worlds full of adolescent power fantasies and lack real experiences that could temper their expectations into something more realistic.  Their attitude to the opposite sex is adversarial:  they think women exist to serve them, and that the main reason for a woman’s existence is to provide sex to men on demand, which is why most of these man-children are addicted to porn.

If a woman expresses a disinclination to do anything these man-children want, she’s a bitch.  Or a feminist.  And then their hate for women comes spewing out like pus from an infected zit.